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It’s not really explained in the shows as far as I’m aware. But it’s stated somewhere that Ben hates when he wins fights too easily, that’s why he practically never uses alien X unless forced to.
So when hes besting all of these run of the mill bad guys who don’t even cut it as a villain of the week he gets bored
The reason why Kevin doesn’t just absorb the powers of the aliens is because, as shown in classic ben 10, doing so runs the risk of Kevin being stuck as a monster again.
Hopefully you guys see this. yes this had different writers as well as cartoon network had a hand in interfering with the writing of show especially Ben’s Character. as for Kevin’s powers, yes his powers are still the same, and as for the explanation for why he doesn’t just absorb anything, you guys will get the explanation in Late Ultimate Alien cuz its a direct continuation of Alien Force. lastly its fine that you like Classic over Alien Force, just as its fine that there are a portion of the fanbase that despise Classic but Love Alien Force/Ultimate Alien. its All Subjective, also this is one of those shows where most of questions you want answered are answered in interviews and in statements made by the writers and not in the actual show so yeah lol
Honestly, just watch the video called sntire Ben 10 story explained. They actually go through all of the important moments and gets you understand that when show wants, it really can give you good stories. But mostly, story in Ben 10 is no way near ro Diamonds like Gravity falls or Owl house. I still absolutely love Ben 10, but it has too many drawbacks. It’s hard to be Ben 10 fan and prove why it is actually good
Let me just inform you, if you want story, then wait another season. The only cohesive story of that era was Aggregor, ultimate Kevin and maybe Dagon(worst ending of any show btw). Shockingly, omniverse has way better story, even with the load of crap in it. So, maybe I would recommend you to watch some specific episodes, to not be disappointed by the Ben 10 show.
I dont know if if other fans would agree but. UAF in terms of writing is the weakest out of the three eras of ben 10, omniverse does pick up some slack.
This episode was mainly to explain galactic law which shows up alot in later shows.
Which is why they let vilgax go after he quit
Cuz they did it the legal way
If it was an off the books fight it would’ve gone differently
Honestly
The only sequel ben10 series that feels like classic is
Omniverse
Kevins powers get explained in a later series
Alot of the things you guys are asking about will get explained
Maybe not in alien force
But alot of them will be explained
i know they’ll find out eventually but i feel like giving the headsup that yes there are things that will be explained in the far future ( Spoilers: Kevin’s powers for example). But like boom mentioned the franchise had different writers with their own ideas. they’re still all canon but they each introduced their own ideas because of the different writers and higher ups. think of it as a typical DC/marvel Product.
Y’alls critiques are valid but I Strongly believe you’ll have a bigger picture once u get further into the journey because the lore and stakes are definitely expansive.
to maybe answer seeohknees thing with the power draining and how it works what it probably is imo once vilgax wins legally he is the ruler of that planet meaning anything he does is just the law of that planet at that point the law only dictates the owner of the planet not how its ruled so at that point its still completely legal under that code for vilgax to then drain the power from people on the planet he rules
it basically makes it possible to be a sovereign tyrant you are in complete and total domination of a world and can do with it what you want and its entirely legal because of how it was obtained
I’m not crazy. I know Ben 10 isn’t flawless television. It can be thinly plotted, executively meddled, and frequently fails to live up to the expectations it sets for itself.
But it’s just so unapologetically “comic book” about itself and its world, despite being born and raised on television. There’s nothing else in the world quite like Ben 10 and that’s why it’s lived on for so long and in so many different forms.
i hope they’ll continue because they like it and not solely cuz of requests. itll just get depressing to watch otherwise, having them miss out on some highlights in the franchise.
Speaking of one random throwaway Rise line… maybe y’all could poll for the redemption rebound that is the Rise of the TMNT movie some day? ? *wink-nudge-cough*
if they got burnt off the first two seasons i’m kinda worried for the future. Ben 10 was CN’s most profitable show (grossed over $6 billion) and because of that they got incredibly handsy with the franchises’ production. Not to mention one of main writer’s death greatly shifted alot of elements. there’s still alot of good to come but i hope they can watch with this background info in mind.
What’s weird about Omnitrix malfunctioning here is that it’s not much of a handicap. Ben can change his transformation at will if he wants to. It’s not like the old Ben where he was stuck in a transformation until the Omnitrix ran out. But for some reason he never chooses to do that.
To add to what Boom said, he is absolutely right that Ben 10 classic was about selling toys and fitting the story around it. Hell i’d say there wasn’t much of continuity in Ben 10 classic either. It was about fighting the villian of the week using the 10 (*) cool aliens Ben had.
Just remember if you all ever want to watch some more of the OG Ben series, there is still the two movies from back then. While the live action one isn’t great, the CG one is pretty great and captures the spirit of the OG series pretty well even though they made it when they were still working on Alien Force.
Speaking of, there is also the Alien Force movie which takes place between Season 2 and 3. So, if you want to take a small break from Season 3, there is the movies ^^
Setting aside Ben’s unpleasant behavior, I really like what they did with Vilgax. He isn’t just a generic fight-dirty Omnitrix hungry villain. He actually conquers worlds within the confines of the universe’s laws. Sure it’s still evil, but he’s evil in a weirdly more honorable way than before. He even acknowledges the consequences of his defeat. It makes him a more satisfying villain in my opinion.
So if you guys are wondering why Ben is an a hole again the actual reason for this is that Alien Force didn’t do quite the same numbers as the Classic Ben 10 so the execs decided that the answer to that is that people wanted to see more of the old Ben. So they reversed almost all the character development he had and reverted him back to being an immature 10 year old. There are a lot of other things that you’ll see with the same beats as the old Ben 10 except done a lot worse.
Oh and Kevin turning into a monster because of Omnitrix, the Omnitrix malfunctioning again it’s the same stuff that they copied from Ben 10 Classic because they thought thats what the audience liked.
Just when I had recovered from the pain of seeing Shera lose to arguably the worst season of Ben 10. So those who voted for Ben 10, I am going to blame you when they look like they aren’t having fun. Yes I am going to be one of those people.
I’m honestly waiting for them to reach Omniverse because it has alot of good and interesting story and worldbuilding crazy fun. And because they use majority of Ben’s old aliens and his new ones. If They have to take another break from ben 10 after s3 and UA season that’s helps get there quicker.
Omniverse is the worst one IMO, the soft reboot did them no favours and retconning the lore UAF tried to establish doesn’t help the continuity problems. Luckily since it’s a soft reboot people can just skip it since it’s doesn’t actually follow continuity like a sequel and instead acts more like an alternate timeline
And in my honest opinion Omniverse elevates the classic series the most amongst AF & UA and we get an answer to why Ben took off the Omnitrix and other cool and interesting things as well.
honestly i hate this this season, mostly on the fact that ben seemed to regressed in maturity, it honestly would piss me off especially after how he was season 1 and 2.
In this season apparently they tried to make the show more like classic Ben 10 but in doing so just removed the only good things this show had on the original
I like to think that Ben didn’t actually think it was a test and he was doing that stupid teenager thing where he bullshits up a reason to justify doing bad things.
It’s not really explained in the shows as far as I’m aware. But it’s stated somewhere that Ben hates when he wins fights too easily, that’s why he practically never uses alien X unless forced to.
So when hes besting all of these run of the mill bad guys who don’t even cut it as a villain of the week he gets bored
my only complaint is that Kevin is in his underwear the entire season.
The reason why Kevin doesn’t just absorb the powers of the aliens is because, as shown in classic ben 10, doing so runs the risk of Kevin being stuck as a monster again.
Hopefully you guys see this. yes this had different writers as well as cartoon network had a hand in interfering with the writing of show especially Ben’s Character. as for Kevin’s powers, yes his powers are still the same, and as for the explanation for why he doesn’t just absorb anything, you guys will get the explanation in Late Ultimate Alien cuz its a direct continuation of Alien Force. lastly its fine that you like Classic over Alien Force, just as its fine that there are a portion of the fanbase that despise Classic but Love Alien Force/Ultimate Alien. its All Subjective, also this is one of those shows where most of questions you want answered are answered in interviews and in statements made by the writers and not in the actual show so yeah lol
Honestly, just watch the video called sntire Ben 10 story explained. They actually go through all of the important moments and gets you understand that when show wants, it really can give you good stories. But mostly, story in Ben 10 is no way near ro Diamonds like Gravity falls or Owl house. I still absolutely love Ben 10, but it has too many drawbacks. It’s hard to be Ben 10 fan and prove why it is actually good
Let me just inform you, if you want story, then wait another season. The only cohesive story of that era was Aggregor, ultimate Kevin and maybe Dagon(worst ending of any show btw). Shockingly, omniverse has way better story, even with the load of crap in it. So, maybe I would recommend you to watch some specific episodes, to not be disappointed by the Ben 10 show.
I dont know if if other fans would agree but. UAF in terms of writing is the weakest out of the three eras of ben 10, omniverse does pick up some slack.
This episode was mainly to explain galactic law which shows up alot in later shows.
Which is why they let vilgax go after he quit
Cuz they did it the legal way
If it was an off the books fight it would’ve gone differently
Honestly
The only sequel ben10 series that feels like classic is
Omniverse
Kevins powers get explained in a later series
Alot of the things you guys are asking about will get explained
Maybe not in alien force
But alot of them will be explained
i know they’ll find out eventually but i feel like giving the headsup that yes there are things that will be explained in the far future ( Spoilers: Kevin’s powers for example). But like boom mentioned the franchise had different writers with their own ideas. they’re still all canon but they each introduced their own ideas because of the different writers and higher ups. think of it as a typical DC/marvel Product.
Y’alls critiques are valid but I Strongly believe you’ll have a bigger picture once u get further into the journey because the lore and stakes are definitely expansive.
to maybe answer seeohknees thing with the power draining and how it works what it probably is imo once vilgax wins legally he is the ruler of that planet meaning anything he does is just the law of that planet at that point the law only dictates the owner of the planet not how its ruled so at that point its still completely legal under that code for vilgax to then drain the power from people on the planet he rules
it basically makes it possible to be a sovereign tyrant you are in complete and total domination of a world and can do with it what you want and its entirely legal because of how it was obtained
I’m not crazy. I know Ben 10 isn’t flawless television. It can be thinly plotted, executively meddled, and frequently fails to live up to the expectations it sets for itself.
But it’s just so unapologetically “comic book” about itself and its world, despite being born and raised on television. There’s nothing else in the world quite like Ben 10 and that’s why it’s lived on for so long and in so many different forms.
It was created by comic book writers and Dwayne McDuffie who did UAF was a legendary comic book writer himself
i hope they’ll continue because they like it and not solely cuz of requests. itll just get depressing to watch otherwise, having them miss out on some highlights in the franchise.
Speaking of one random throwaway Rise line… maybe y’all could poll for the redemption rebound that is the Rise of the TMNT movie some day? ? *wink-nudge-cough*
KEVIN IS STILL ABLE TO ABSORB BEN’S POWERS LIKE YOU SAID< BUT HE DOESNT DO SO FOR A REASON THAT HAS NOT BEEN SAID YET. WE DO NOT WANT TO SPOIL YOU.
I think you guys are actually gonna really like this season!! I’m so glad you guys are watching it again.
Guys it’s Way Big not Atomic, we have not seen Atomic yet
I’m pretty sure it’s a running joke (it’s pretty funny lol since comments like this appear even time we see him)
delete this comment its a spoiler
‘I hope cocky ben doesn’t stick around.’
F
if they got burnt off the first two seasons i’m kinda worried for the future. Ben 10 was CN’s most profitable show (grossed over $6 billion) and because of that they got incredibly handsy with the franchises’ production. Not to mention one of main writer’s death greatly shifted alot of elements. there’s still alot of good to come but i hope they can watch with this background info in mind.
What’s weird about Omnitrix malfunctioning here is that it’s not much of a handicap. Ben can change his transformation at will if he wants to. It’s not like the old Ben where he was stuck in a transformation until the Omnitrix ran out. But for some reason he never chooses to do that.
To add to what Boom said, he is absolutely right that Ben 10 classic was about selling toys and fitting the story around it. Hell i’d say there wasn’t much of continuity in Ben 10 classic either. It was about fighting the villian of the week using the 10 (*) cool aliens Ben had.
Just remember if you all ever want to watch some more of the OG Ben series, there is still the two movies from back then. While the live action one isn’t great, the CG one is pretty great and captures the spirit of the OG series pretty well even though they made it when they were still working on Alien Force.
Speaking of, there is also the Alien Force movie which takes place between Season 2 and 3. So, if you want to take a small break from Season 3, there is the movies ^^
Setting aside Ben’s unpleasant behavior, I really like what they did with Vilgax. He isn’t just a generic fight-dirty Omnitrix hungry villain. He actually conquers worlds within the confines of the universe’s laws. Sure it’s still evil, but he’s evil in a weirdly more honorable way than before. He even acknowledges the consequences of his defeat. It makes him a more satisfying villain in my opinion.
this is the problem with season 3 they gas up a villain for more than one episode then the fight only lasts less than five minutes
So if you guys are wondering why Ben is an a hole again the actual reason for this is that Alien Force didn’t do quite the same numbers as the Classic Ben 10 so the execs decided that the answer to that is that people wanted to see more of the old Ben. So they reversed almost all the character development he had and reverted him back to being an immature 10 year old. There are a lot of other things that you’ll see with the same beats as the old Ben 10 except done a lot worse.
Oh and Kevin turning into a monster because of Omnitrix, the Omnitrix malfunctioning again it’s the same stuff that they copied from Ben 10 Classic because they thought thats what the audience liked.
Yeah the first half of this season, is.. not good lol, thou it does get better after
Saying that hope you can enjoy it lol
Just when I had recovered from the pain of seeing Shera lose to arguably the worst season of Ben 10. So those who voted for Ben 10, I am going to blame you when they look like they aren’t having fun. Yes I am going to be one of those people.
Among the fans Classic and Omniverse seem to be the fan favorites. When I was a kid Alien Force kinda bored me and I only watched it sporatically
alien force is actually the fan favorite. Omniverse got alot of mixed reception similar to korra.
IMO Omniverse which is the second show after Alien Force does the best at letting Ben flex while also giving him real fights
oh yeah, Omniverse is sick
A lot of this season’s hate comes from Ben’s attitude which feels a lot more like Ben Classic than the mature Ben we came to appreciate in AF 1 & 2
Mr Smoothy is basically exactly what Boom said, think the pizzeria in Teen Titans or the boardwalk in Steven Universe
I’m honestly waiting for them to reach Omniverse because it has alot of good and interesting story and worldbuilding crazy fun. And because they use majority of Ben’s old aliens and his new ones. If They have to take another break from ben 10 after s3 and UA season that’s helps get there quicker.
Omniverse is the worst one IMO, the soft reboot did them no favours and retconning the lore UAF tried to establish doesn’t help the continuity problems. Luckily since it’s a soft reboot people can just skip it since it’s doesn’t actually follow continuity like a sequel and instead acts more like an alternate timeline
And in my honest opinion Omniverse elevates the classic series the most amongst AF & UA and we get an answer to why Ben took off the Omnitrix and other cool and interesting things as well.
honestly i hate this this season, mostly on the fact that ben seemed to regressed in maturity, it honestly would piss me off especially after how he was season 1 and 2.
In this season apparently they tried to make the show more like classic Ben 10 but in doing so just removed the only good things this show had on the original
here we go, the start to the worst season in all of Ben 10
nah
damn fr? I was hoping it got better, I never got this far as a kid
After this season it gets better again, this one is probably the lowest point in the series cause of executive meddling
I like to think that Ben didn’t actually think it was a test and he was doing that stupid teenager thing where he bullshits up a reason to justify doing bad things.
I’m so glad Ben 10 is back?
Ben 10 Ultimate Alien will explain how Kevin went from having all of Ben’s powers in the classic to now being able to absorb anything.