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idziman
1 hour
Do you guys really understand the difference between having to do something while under the pressure of being pursued versus having an opening to give your undivided attention to it? I'd never thought I'd see the day where you guys unironically agree with Akainu's sense of absolute justice, all you needed was to get it spoonfed to you by Anakin and Tarkin
tavisa9
6 hours
At least in the old canon, Mace had trained at least two apprentices. He had taught them both Vaapad, and both consequently fell to the Dark Side afterwards. He’s considered the only true master of this particular form, and may have had some bearing on why he did not attempt to train Anakin.
I’m speaking strictly from old canon, but Vaapad requires much more aggression than any other form. The Jedi has to dip into the thrill of the fight, of winning, without losing themselves to it. It takes the dark side energy directed at them, draws it in, then redirects it back to the source.
Him reflecting Palpatine’s lightning back into him was both a physical thing, but also him redirecting the dark side just as his lightsaber redirects the lightning.
MrMathMatical
7 hours
yeah, don't listen to people who tell you to skip to a certain series. Those people are stupid. Star Wars, especially the shows, assume you have watched each series in release order. So they will add say a character from Rebels in The Mandolorian. but they wont give you an introduction, they assume you have watched rebels and know who they are. They will also be a spoiler heavy series Ahsoka in particular. You'll also miss several easter eggs and small details like a name drop here and there or a quick cameo etc. So its best to watch release order so clone wars, rebels, bad batch. then Mando seasons 1&2, Book of Boba Fett, Mando Season 3, then Ahsoka. The live action shows overlap timeline wise, so it can get a bit messy when doing a chronological watch. But this is just my opinion and suggestion on how to watch Star Wars, you can agree with me or you can ignore me. You guys do what you think is best for you. I just know there are things you'll be more excited for if you watch release order. But either way I look forward to seeing you guys continue the story regardless of what order you watch.
Rick
9 hours
Eco was from domino squad, now fives is the last remaining member
hakairyu
9 hours
I think the problem is Mace sees the things he dislikes about himself in Anakin.
Taz
10 hours
Reason they struggle using the Force is because you need to be concentrating hard, which is difficult when half the time jedi are blocking laser bolts. Like you brought up Luke lifting the ship out the lake but he struggled to do that with a absolute clear mind, and his force power is like top of the verse so you can understand why the average Jedi isnt pulling crazy stuff off.
Matthew
10 hours
Why do you guys even have a comment section if you don’t read them? Cuz you guys are wrong about a LOT of stuff and assume a LOT. I get not wanting to be spoiled you seriously miss so much.
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Residentfan 1
10 hours
They literally read the comments all the time. They’re in here replying all the time and constantly bring up our points in the videos. You must be a really new member if you don’t know this.
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Slaya806
7 hours
2 of them in this video say they don’t read the comments on clone wars
The
10 hours
The limit of their force abilities in combat is 100% just plot, but if I had to make an excuse, I would probably say it is about concentration. They are already preoccupied being shot at, making it hard for them to think. This is where having a magic laser sword comes in handy, because that is something ingrained in you. To use the force takes focus. A lot of times, especially in training sessions, you can hear the Jedi implore their pupils to concentrate.
Aaron
10 hours
40:21
I haven't played Destiny, but there is a MMORPG where you do just that, but you can be one of two kinds of jedi, a trooper, or a smuggler for the light side; and one of two kinds of sith, a trooper, and a bounty hunter on the dark side. It's Star Wars: The Old Republic(different from Kotor).
It's not the same genre, but it is the same idea.
SD
11 hours
Well, not that you’re probably gonna see this lol, but to be clear, Ahsoka’s killing at the end is acceptable under the Jedi code. Jedi are allowed to kill in self defense and in defense of innocents.
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tavisa9
5 hours
That was my immediate reaction. Yoda telling Luke, “A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense. Never for attack.”
PJ
11 hours
It's funny, the Jedi, whom also have the ability of foresight, cannot predict Anakin's future. They know he is connected to the "Chosen One" prophecy which is why he was allowed an untraditional anointment into the Jedi Order despite being too old and having emotional attachments. It's because of all this that they *fear* his training and power when he's quite susceptible to the dark side (which is something the Jedi Council would never admit because fear and jealousy is a hypocrisy to them). I also (in my own headcanon) believe Mace Windu, as a once young Jedi prodigy, has some unspoken resentment/jealousy towards Anakin, but that's just me.
Matthew
11 hours
It annoys me when people say “just use the force” as if it’s as easy as reaching out your arm to grab something. You need total concentration and inner balance for the force to work at all.
Red
11 hours
So to answer all Questions 1. The reason they don't use the force as much is because it requires energy to use. And be pretty crazy to do in the middle of gun fights. 2. The reason why it took so long for the reinforcements to arrive is because it does take time to travel to different systems it's not an instant thing.
Aaron
11 hours
Mace has a purple lightsaber because Samuel Jackson wanted a purple lightsaber. They can retroactively try to make it make sense, but that is the reason.
Petrichor12
11 hours
Welp, these episode surely won't come back for several important reasons years in the future. 😆
The
11 hours
A lot of the mistakes made by the council comes down to arrogance and hypocrisy. Of course, AFTER orderer 66, when they are forced into hiding, away from their big shiny temple and their high status in society is taken from them is when they start to see where they fed up.
PKKite
11 hours
Throwing a Saber works well against other melee combatants and unexpected attacks. But if you throw a Saber in a gunfight you have 0 defense. Very few Jedi have the strength or ability to block one bolt (like yoda with lightning its a technique called tutamimis) yet alone dozens. So if a jedi threw their Saber they have no way to reflect bolts as a defense and would easily get shot.
Jedi instead learned the art of reflecting bolts and even bouncing them back at opponents as a defensive method of attack when blaster tech became normalized and their opponents were small pirate groups, mandos, or other armies rather than Sith or Dark Jedi who used swords/lightsabers exclusively.
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Brandon
9 hours
I feel like it would be more effective for Ahsoka to do since she has 2 lightsabers. She could still block with one while she throws the other.
TEG
11 hours
They weren't talking about throwing their sabers though. They were arguing that throwing sticky bombs + force control would be unstoppable.
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PKKite
11 hours
They mentioned multiple times before that comment that they would just throw the Saber that is what I'm referring to not the one time they mention using a force grenade throw (which the jedi basically already do since their strength is force enhanced usually they just throw farther rather than focusing on floating a grenade over)
Icy
11 hours
The "clone in the back" you pointed out was Commander Cody the one who is usually paired with Rex, he is right under Obi-wan like Rex is to Anikin
delta3064
11 hours
RIP Echo 4 dominoes squad clones down, 1 left fives
Fulcrum
11 hours
Icko noooo!
sombra_hacker09
11 hours
First Droidbait then cut up then heavy now echo
Fives is the last domino left
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TEG
11 hours
It's "Hevy" btw Not "Heavy"
RoseMetal
11 hours
Going by the cannon at the time this show came out cause idk what disney has tried to change. The purple lightsaber dosent have anything to do with balance of the force, sith have used purple too. It's just a particularly rare form of kyber crystal. Also mace dosent really use any dark side, he just uses more aggressive force then normal jedi and is the only one able to ride that edge without tipping into darkness
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delta3064
11 hours
No it's a dark side balance thing, they added it over the years, mace uses vaapad a lightsaber style that uses controlled dark side use
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PKKite
11 hours
That's new disney Lore. The old Lore is purple was just due to the crystal mace used which was not a kyber crystal but a crystal from his home world this is from the EU books. The light dark thing makes no sense since lightsaber colors being based on the force was never really a thing till disney and bleeding crystals ect. (Red sabers used to be due to artifical crystals used for them). It also makes even less sense disney changed this since we have dark jedi and sith who have not used red sabers it's purely a aesthetic choice. Such as Exar Kun who was a lord of the sith with a Duel blade blue Saber. Also we know multiple Vaapad users who don't have purple sabers
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delta3064
9 hours
Still doesn't change that it's canon now and it's not a bad change, it just adds to the story and maces character. And the lightsaber color thing is cool, you may not like it, but it adds depth for me and I enjoy it
Do you guys really understand the difference between having to do something while under the pressure of being pursued versus having an opening to give your undivided attention to it? I'd never thought I'd see the day where you guys unironically agree with Akainu's sense of absolute justice, all you needed was to get it spoonfed to you by Anakin and Tarkin
At least in the old canon, Mace had trained at least two apprentices. He had taught them both Vaapad, and both consequently fell to the Dark Side afterwards. He’s considered the only true master of this particular form, and may have had some bearing on why he did not attempt to train Anakin.
I’m speaking strictly from old canon, but Vaapad requires much more aggression than any other form. The Jedi has to dip into the thrill of the fight, of winning, without losing themselves to it. It takes the dark side energy directed at them, draws it in, then redirects it back to the source.
Him reflecting Palpatine’s lightning back into him was both a physical thing, but also him redirecting the dark side just as his lightsaber redirects the lightning.
yeah, don't listen to people who tell you to skip to a certain series. Those people are stupid. Star Wars, especially the shows, assume you have watched each series in release order. So they will add say a character from Rebels in The Mandolorian. but they wont give you an introduction, they assume you have watched rebels and know who they are. They will also be a spoiler heavy series Ahsoka in particular. You'll also miss several easter eggs and small details like a name drop here and there or a quick cameo etc. So its best to watch release order so clone wars, rebels, bad batch. then Mando seasons 1&2, Book of Boba Fett, Mando Season 3, then Ahsoka. The live action shows overlap timeline wise, so it can get a bit messy when doing a chronological watch. But this is just my opinion and suggestion on how to watch Star Wars, you can agree with me or you can ignore me. You guys do what you think is best for you. I just know there are things you'll be more excited for if you watch release order. But either way I look forward to seeing you guys continue the story regardless of what order you watch.
Eco was from domino squad, now fives is the last remaining member
I think the problem is Mace sees the things he dislikes about himself in Anakin.
Reason they struggle using the Force is because you need to be concentrating hard, which is difficult when half the time jedi are blocking laser bolts. Like you brought up Luke lifting the ship out the lake but he struggled to do that with a absolute clear mind, and his force power is like top of the verse so you can understand why the average Jedi isnt pulling crazy stuff off.
Why do you guys even have a comment section if you don’t read them? Cuz you guys are wrong about a LOT of stuff and assume a LOT. I get not wanting to be spoiled you seriously miss so much.
They literally read the comments all the time. They’re in here replying all the time and constantly bring up our points in the videos. You must be a really new member if you don’t know this.
2 of them in this video say they don’t read the comments on clone wars
The limit of their force abilities in combat is 100% just plot, but if I had to make an excuse, I would probably say it is about concentration. They are already preoccupied being shot at, making it hard for them to think. This is where having a magic laser sword comes in handy, because that is something ingrained in you. To use the force takes focus. A lot of times, especially in training sessions, you can hear the Jedi implore their pupils to concentrate.
40:21
I haven't played Destiny, but there is a MMORPG where you do just that, but you can be one of two kinds of jedi, a trooper, or a smuggler for the light side; and one of two kinds of sith, a trooper, and a bounty hunter on the dark side. It's Star Wars: The Old Republic(different from Kotor).
It's not the same genre, but it is the same idea.
Well, not that you’re probably gonna see this lol, but to be clear, Ahsoka’s killing at the end is acceptable under the Jedi code. Jedi are allowed to kill in self defense and in defense of innocents.
That was my immediate reaction. Yoda telling Luke, “A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense. Never for attack.”
It's funny, the Jedi, whom also have the ability of foresight, cannot predict Anakin's future. They know he is connected to the "Chosen One" prophecy which is why he was allowed an untraditional anointment into the Jedi Order despite being too old and having emotional attachments. It's because of all this that they *fear* his training and power when he's quite susceptible to the dark side (which is something the Jedi Council would never admit because fear and jealousy is a hypocrisy to them). I also (in my own headcanon) believe Mace Windu, as a once young Jedi prodigy, has some unspoken resentment/jealousy towards Anakin, but that's just me.
It annoys me when people say “just use the force” as if it’s as easy as reaching out your arm to grab something. You need total concentration and inner balance for the force to work at all.
So to answer all Questions 1. The reason they don't use the force as much is because it requires energy to use. And be pretty crazy to do in the middle of gun fights. 2. The reason why it took so long for the reinforcements to arrive is because it does take time to travel to different systems it's not an instant thing.
Mace has a purple lightsaber because Samuel Jackson wanted a purple lightsaber. They can retroactively try to make it make sense, but that is the reason.
Welp, these episode surely won't come back for several important reasons years in the future. 😆
A lot of the mistakes made by the council comes down to arrogance and hypocrisy. Of course, AFTER orderer 66, when they are forced into hiding, away from their big shiny temple and their high status in society is taken from them is when they start to see where they fed up.
Throwing a Saber works well against other melee combatants and unexpected attacks. But if you throw a Saber in a gunfight you have 0 defense. Very few Jedi have the strength or ability to block one bolt (like yoda with lightning its a technique called tutamimis) yet alone dozens. So if a jedi threw their Saber they have no way to reflect bolts as a defense and would easily get shot.
Jedi instead learned the art of reflecting bolts and even bouncing them back at opponents as a defensive method of attack when blaster tech became normalized and their opponents were small pirate groups, mandos, or other armies rather than Sith or Dark Jedi who used swords/lightsabers exclusively.
I feel like it would be more effective for Ahsoka to do since she has 2 lightsabers. She could still block with one while she throws the other.
They weren't talking about throwing their sabers though. They were arguing that throwing sticky bombs + force control would be unstoppable.
They mentioned multiple times before that comment that they would just throw the Saber that is what I'm referring to not the one time they mention using a force grenade throw (which the jedi basically already do since their strength is force enhanced usually they just throw farther rather than focusing on floating a grenade over)
The "clone in the back" you pointed out was Commander Cody the one who is usually paired with Rex, he is right under Obi-wan like Rex is to Anikin
RIP Echo 4 dominoes squad clones down, 1 left fives
Icko noooo!
First Droidbait then cut up then heavy now echo
Fives is the last domino left
It's "Hevy" btw Not "Heavy"
Going by the cannon at the time this show came out cause idk what disney has tried to change. The purple lightsaber dosent have anything to do with balance of the force, sith have used purple too. It's just a particularly rare form of kyber crystal. Also mace dosent really use any dark side, he just uses more aggressive force then normal jedi and is the only one able to ride that edge without tipping into darkness
No it's a dark side balance thing, they added it over the years, mace uses vaapad a lightsaber style that uses controlled dark side use
That's new disney Lore. The old Lore is purple was just due to the crystal mace used which was not a kyber crystal but a crystal from his home world this is from the EU books. The light dark thing makes no sense since lightsaber colors being based on the force was never really a thing till disney and bleeding crystals ect. (Red sabers used to be due to artifical crystals used for them). It also makes even less sense disney changed this since we have dark jedi and sith who have not used red sabers it's purely a aesthetic choice. Such as Exar Kun who was a lord of the sith with a Duel blade blue Saber. Also we know multiple Vaapad users who don't have purple sabers
Still doesn't change that it's canon now and it's not a bad change, it just adds to the story and maces character. And the lightsaber color thing is cool, you may not like it, but it adds depth for me and I enjoy it