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II mean, Zack Snyder put Batman with a gun in live-action if you want to check out his 3-part DCEU (excluding Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman since they don't add to the story really). I'm just saying. And this would include Man of Steel, the 3-hour Ultimate Edition of Batman versus Superman, and Zack Snyder's 4-hour cut of Justice League.
Wow! You guys want to read the Flashpoint universe comics? Why do you want to torture yourselves? When I first read these comics I wanted to get out of this world as fast as possible!
The lighter skinned aqualad is named Garth, in the comics he's a founding member of the Teen Titans and as he grows up he takes on a new name "Tempest" similar to how Robin becomes Nightwing. The darker skinned aqualad is named Caldur, he was created for the Young Justice tv show but he does have a comics counterpart based off of him named "jackson hyde"
That universe begins with justice league war followed by justice league throne of atlantis. I can't wait for you guys to start that off. And you should totally check out young justice if you haven't already. A largely entertaining time.
If we're going to DCAU recommendations, I'd go for Batman: Assault on Arkham, Superman Vs. The Elite, and suicide Suqad: Hell to Pay.
Technically speaking I know asasault on Arkham and Superman Vs. the Elite are not DCAU movies. Assault on Arkham is in the Arkham games universe and Sperman Vs The Elite is its own thing
Dammit, I meant Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay.
There's two Aqualads. Garth is the white aqualad who later became Tempest. The black Aqualad's name is Kaldur'ahm and he's the son of Black Manta on of Aquaman's main villians.
Dude, they're watching through Young Justice right now. Spoilers
For movies I'd recommend Batman/Superman: Battle of the Super Sons, Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths and for Live Action the Shazam duology, Aquaman duology and The Suicide Squad (2021 by James Gunn).
Also since you guys are going down the DC rabbit hole, I honestly recommend giving Batman Brave and the Bold a shot. Even if you just do a once off at first to see if you're into it. It's a show that brings in tons of DC heroes and villains, many that don't get any media otherwise. And if you need something to sweeten the deal, Plastic Man gets a few episodes teamed up with Batman.
DCs animated movies are top notch. Some are actually a shared continuity, but are fine as stand alones as well.
Please watch the animated Wonder Woman movie with Keri Russell and Nathan Fillion.
50:28 FYI the room superman was in had red lights because they were mimicking red sun radiation. That's why superman was so didn't have any power. It wasn't just a lack of direct sun light.
Justice League war is the next film and that’s the start of the connected universe
38:10 That Captain Atom. He's Basically living radiation. He can absorb and create any form of it. There was a Justice League episode where he fought Superman by producing Red Sun radiation.
Next you'll want justice league war, that's the real start of the dccau, there's a million lists online if the watch order, it's mostly just release order but they put out a movie here and there throughout that aren't connected at all
If I remember right there is an after credits or mid credits scene, which sets up the next movie in the sequence. I think, it’s been a bit lol I know a lot of them do the marvel thing 😂
In case you guys were wondering what Thomas Wayne wrote in the letter to Bruce:
This is What Batman’s Father Wrote to Him, and What We Can Learn from It.
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The intriguing world of comic books often mirrors real life, illuminating the complex struggle between good and evil, choice and fate, and love and loss. The enduring appeal of these stories lies in the deeply human insights they impart, revealed through their fantastic narratives and larger-than-life characters. A potent example of this can be found in the poignant message from Thomas Wayne, a version of Batman in the DC Comics miniseries “Flashpoint.” The letter he writes to his son, Bruce Wayne, encapsulates the essence of life’s trials, the power of choice, the importance of moving forward, and the enduring hope for a happier future. This article delves into Thomas Wayne’s message to illuminate how it can serve as a guiding beacon for our lives, urging us to consciously shape our paths, overcome personal tragedies, and strive toward happiness.
Thomas Wayne as Batman
In the comic book miniseries “Flashpoint” by DC Comics, the character Batman is portrayed as Thomas Wayne, the father of Bruce Wayne. In the alternate reality of “Flashpoint,” Bruce Wayne’s parents were not shot by a mugger, and Bruce Wayne did not become Batman. Instead, Bruce was shot and killed, resulting in Thomas Wayne becoming Batman after the murder of his son, Bruce. He is a much darker and more violent version of Batman than his son would have become. He ultimately sacrifices himself to help The Flash restore the original timeline, resulting in the death of Thomas Wayne as Batman.
Original Timeline
Before his death, Thomas Wayne wrote a letter to his son, Bruce, and had the Flash deliver it to his son when the Flash returned to his original timeline. Flashpoint Beyond issue number 6 then reveals the full message Bruce’s father sent him. It reads:
Dear son,
There’s only one thing I know about life. I know some things happen by chance. And some things happen because we make them happen. Barry Allen was once haunted by the past. But when he became the Flash, he left the ghosts behind. He found love, a family. And for the first time ever…friends. Barry thought yesterday was behind him…but somebody wouldn’t let him escape it.
When Barry came to me for help, I turned him away. I’m not the hero of this story. I’m a man who’s been corrupted by his own unbearable pain. I’m a man who has too much blood on his hands to be called good. Your friend taught me we can’t only live a life for those we’ve lost. We have to live a life for those we still have.
If I got a second chance, I would hope I’d come to understand that. To live that…like you should, Bruce. That’s all parents want for their children. What we never had. Your mother and I want you to be happy. Promise me you’ll try. And I will too…wherever I am.
Love always,
your father — Thomas.
If you curious in what Thomas wrote in the letter, just googles flashpoint letter to Bruce.
Also, Martha cut open her cheeks to put a “smile” on her face after Bruce’s death.
you all should also watch the live-action movies of the DCEU as much love and hate they get depending on who you ask they are great takes on each character. some movies are better than others and some are masterpieces... the Snyder cut Justice League has one of the most mind-blowing CGI and story beats, worth the watch, I'd also say that the animated movies and young justice that you are watching don't get talked about because they are animated but those who know know. and more people think of comic media and marvel mc. but I believe DC comics have far superior story and writing for stuff like flashpoint
i didn't think i would cry but batman tearing up got me
I assure you the comics set in Flashpoint are the most boring, dull, all flash no substance comics out there
They exist but I’d never recommend them
He actually only saved one world, that world still ended up destroyed
So just a little fun fact, but the rhyming demon named etrigan, is raven's nephew from the comics. it's not really acknowledged in the movies or cartoons, and it's a fairly recent change they made, since 2011, but I always thought it was cool that they decided to make them related.
This starts the new 52 universe I believe which ends in apocolypse war
It's weird to realize how often Mirror Master is an important part of DC movies considering he's usually like a B tier Rogue, A- at best. I guess his powers are really narratively useful
I know we keep saying this show on like every DC thing, but if you want more Etrigan the Demon who speaks in rhymes... Batman the Brave and the Bold. 😆
But you keep watching DC stuff, and he is actually in a lot more, so you'll probably see a lot of these guys again regardless.
No, Thomas Wayne saved Barry not the world, the world was pretty much over once that atomic nuke went off, so again Batman shouldn't have guns.
Are you fucking serious? You really need this explained to you? Thomas saved the world by saving Barry. Thomas shot Thawne, giving Barry control of the speed force, allowing him to go back in time to save the world. So again Batman SHOULD have guns.
So what he means is the world wasnt actually saved because Multiverse Theory. Which is how the DC universe works. That world still blew up.
Do Batman: The Killing Joke next!!!!
It didn't matter if Lois talked or not they were gonna find her regardless.
Yeah...I don't think the paradox version of joker is ever being killed by batman
I am so hyped for this, dude. I binged exactly half of the DCAMU last October (stopped because ADHD got in the way and I didn't go back to it) so I'm ready to pick it back up with y'all. That said, very much do as others below said and watch them in specific order, or there will be much further confusion.
So, it's very minor, but y'all missed a post-credits scene. So hilarious, the one time y'all don't even check. I'm sure Ruff is gonna love that.
Cant wait for more dc animated movie reactions,i love it
I dont think they realize that those set of movies\the dcamu starts with flashpoint
you guys should really check out Superman Vs. The Elite. I know its in that box set but its not part of the "universe (but it can easily slip into it)
“Idk when that continuity starts”This movie is literally the beginning of said continuity😂😂 Flashpoint Paradox was meant to be the end of the previous “DC Universe of Animated Movies” and the beginning of the “DCAMU(DC Animated Movie Universe).” Keep in mind Barry & Bruce’s suits, when Barry undid Flashpoint, the universe that we saw at the beginning of the film is not the one that he returned to, things are slightly different, and this is what leads to the next movies. There’s also a post credit scene in this movie that yall missed that leads directly into the next film.
Oh Ruff,Flashpoint is the start of the Continuity universe you're referring too that ends with Apocalypse war
both shazam movies are really funny, id love to see a reaction to those
The new 52 is the name of this new universe created as a result of Flashpoint. that means slightly changed origin stories and not new but unusual characters are introduced. several have POST-CREDIT scenes, this movie also had it, you missed it. Also if you can watch Batman: Assault on Arkham, before the Suicide Squad arrives, they are not related but you will appreciate it better.
Heavy agree, Hell To Pay feels like a direct continuation of Assault on Arkham weirdly enough(despite obvious reasons why it’s not lol)
IT WAS ME BARRY
That villain team the justice league saved at the start were a version of The Rogues. They are probably the best villain team of all time. just a group of best buds who hang out, pull heists and try to catch the flash off guard to pull off the heists. they don't even really hate the flash or anything, he's just the local cop. They don't even go out of their way to kill people and actively try not too, they JUST rob places. when a Rogue dies they all agree to do one massive heist dressed as the dead one in their honor. sometimes they help the flash against bigger villains who they think is going too far. sometimes they just hang out with the flash at a bar or play poker with him when one of their guys are too sick for a scheduled heist. Hell, when one of them got diagnosed with cancer he TOLD THE FLASH and said "I hope you understand" AND THEN THE FLASH SAID HE WOULD HELP PAY FOR HIS TREATMENT. They are the chillest gang of all time and they are just the best vibe.
Just so you guys know, the DCAMU movies that start with Flashpoint I'm pretty sure all have after credit scenes that give you a hint to the next movie.
Like someone else mentioned, BOTH Aqualad's you guys know are in this movie, along with Tula (the girl on Aquaman's side). The one with black hair who's doing aquakinesis is Garth, the original Aqualad, while Kaldur, best known for his (basically) introduction in the Young Justice cartoon, is the other Aqualad. Kaldur was originally created to be introduced in Young Justice, but Geoff Johns featured his version of Kaldur just a few months earlier than the first episodes airing.
Flashpoint is such a wild movie, and I do enjoy it, but I can see why people don't really talk about the DCAMU. There are some movies from the roster that I enjoy, but I personally don't like some of the plot lines they took and the choices they made in the long run. I still look forward to seeing y'alls reactions, especially once you reach Reign of the Supermen and the Constantine movies!
Superman vs. the Elite is one of the best DC animated films imo, its kind of similar in vibes to the animated dark knight returns. I'd love to see y'alls reaction to it!
its in the box set they got. not sure if they are going to watch it soon but now we at least know they have it
before this movie i thought dc was just meh i mean yeah i loved justice leuage tv show batman and superman but i was to 1 headed to get the brouder scale
now i know alot about of AWESOME THESE HEROS ARE
The Death of Superman animated movie would be fun to see ya'll eventually react to.
I think it would be cool if you guys watched some of the death battles on YouTube
his name is Captain Atom in this shazam in this timeline is captain thunder, the regular shazam is 1 kid
flashpoint was the start of it justice league war is next
The lore for reverse flash is ridiculous. He's from the future originally as a Fan of the flash. He finds out that apparently he's the one who is the flashs greatest nemesis. So he recreated the accident that created the flash and gained speed force powers which he then used to mess up his own life, turning himself into a villain and then proceeded to time travel all the way back in time to mess with the flash in many messed up ways. From killing Flashs mother and pinning the blame on his father, to literally phasing his best and only friend out of existence while the two of them were like 10
other things thane did to Barry:Pushed him down the stairs
snoozed his alarm so he would be late to his first day of school
moved his glove slightly so he would miss the game winning catch
etc.
Erased Barry's best friend from history
Jerked Barry off at super speed when he was making out with his first girlfriend so she would think he was a premature ejaculator.
If I remember right he recreated the experiment because he wanted to be just like the Flash? He didn't know he was Flash's main villain. But the experiment went wrong and sort of like. warped his adoration (I believe in one varient its like. a romantic obsession) of Flash into wanting Barry to suffer and die, even at the cost of his own life.
And when thawne dies he realizes he no longer exists bound to the rules of time travel. He has seen himself be killed by flash dozens of times and can exist any where and any when he wants
The "set of movies" you guys talked about starts with this one.Flashpoint is a big reboot in the comics that started the "New 52" universe, and it was also used to started the animated equivalent for the New 52, the DCAU
Correction, DCAMU.DCAU is the universe of the 90s-2000s animations
Yeah so this movie is the beginning of the DCAMU (DC Animated Movie Universe), so if you guys need a list of the movies that are a part of that universe here they are in order:
-Flashpoint Paradox-Justice League War
-Son of Batman
--Justice League: Throne Of Atlantis
-Batman vs Robin
-Batman: Bad Blood
-Justice League Vs Teen Titans
-Justice League Dark
-Teen Titans: The Judas Contract
-Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay
-The Death Of Superman
-Constantine: City Of Demons
-Reign of the Supermen
-Batman:Hush
-Wonder Woman: Bloodlines
and the grand finale, Justice League Dark: Apokolips War
Please follow that order!!!
So Fun Fact: When the Flashpoint Event happened in the comics and the timeline was reset, there were a bunch of changes made to the world of DC and it's characters in what was called the New 52. One of those changes was that Cyborg replaced Martian Man Hunter as a founding member of the Justice League.
Why does every justice league movie have wonder woman being a homewrecker lol I’d sue for deformation if I was her
Well she is a master manipulator when she's not a superhero. Even injustice called it out by the good wonder woman
Ik she’s a manipulator but damn girl they got u looking trashy out here
There’s 2 aqua lads kinda like robin and night wing where the blue aqua lad from teen titans is the first and kaldur from young justice is the current I can’t spoil it but he’s the son of someone very important
i hope they do go back and watch crisis on two earths
i honestly hope you do this whole series of movies
I've been waiting for them to see this since eric asked why the flash doesnt use his time travelling, he finally gets to see why
Wait so yall starting the DCAMU??? BETT
the DC grind the crew has been going on has been the absolute best