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Young Justice S4 Episode 19-20 Reaction

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  1. Commenters avatar
    Tylor
    10 days

    Rainbow lantern, no. There is a white lantern. But you need to master all of the other emotions enable to be one.Red-rage

    Blue- hope

    Green-will

    Pink-love

    Indigo-compassion

    Orange- avarice

    Yellow-fear

    Black- death

    White equals life and mastery of or ability to master all emotions on the emotional spectrum of light.

    Also there is gray for sorrow, gold for happiness and ultraviolet. There either one off special stories or current being developed or saved for the future.

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    DrawingFyreFox
    20 days

    I was going to mention The Green Lantern animated series when i watch the last batch of episodes but then i realized i was Silver Tear member and you were finished the season for Diamond.

    I would have said for one of you to watch the last three minutes of the Green Lantern series. Since it ends with Razor refusing to give up hope that a friend is dead and goes into space to look for them.

    If your still curious here's a link to that YouTube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZK2rIaxwcA (Green Lantern: The Animated Series Afew Final Minutes)

    I'm sorry if I'm not supposed to post links. I'm not sure.

    Also, the show examples of Green, Yellow, Red, Pink, Orange and Blue in the show so those could be fun to watch if you're curious. 

    Sorry, this is so long, Thanks for reading and have a Nice Day.

  3. triggerhappymongoose_69807
    22 days

    Razer my beloved boy. 

  4. Commenters avatar
    Argo
    22 days

    For the whole phantom zone projector stuff, Kryptonite is the radioactive remains of planet krypton iirc.  Mantis finding the phantom zone projector in the area was due to Metron categorizing things based on planets: Phantom Zone Projector and Kryptonite both equal Krypton, thus they're stored near each other.

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    Vort3x
    22 days

    Razer is from the Green Lantern show, where he was a red lantern before the last you see of him, a blue lantern ring was sent to him. Ngl tho it does come out of nowhere if youve never heard of the show before

  6. adacor
    22 days

    The thing about the New Genesis stuff is: Apokolips and New Genesis are a dichotomy with each other. Wanting to see Apokolips without delving deeper into a bigger New Gods territory is a little counterintuitive to the Fourth World setting. This show's issue is that they need to center everything around the Young Justice team when the Fourth World requires its own whole deep dive to really do any justice

    There is no way to adequately cover the Apokolips side of things without talking about New Genesis

  7. Commenters avatar
    Aaron
    1 month

    Here is a link to Comicstorian's YouTube video where he reads the entire Injustice comic series.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2GGy2ckLbI&t=18440s

    Yes it's long(7 hours), but it's so good. If you guys have down time, I'd recommend listening to it at least once. It gets so CRAZY.

  8. fatalbeast22
    1 month

    Ruff is out of his mind if he thought the apokolips conflict would be wrapped up this season, thats like and end of the series entirely level event

  9. Commenters avatar
    Logan
    1 month

    You figure it would be kind of easy for them to realize that the reveal of The Phantom Zone in the final episodes of the season titled Young Justice: Phantoms wouldn't bring the end of the conflict between Vandal and Darkseid.

  10. Commenters avatar
    LeeAnne
    1 month

    So just for a little background. Back in the day when YJ aired on Cartoon Network it was on”DC mornings” every Saturday and it aired alongside the green lantern show where Razor was an original character. When season 2 of YJ ended they also ended the GL show where Razor flies off into space and never seen again in any media. Both Wally and Razor are voiced by the same VA, this episode was a tribute to the little kids, like me a little girl in Oklahoma, who watched both shows religiously and lost two of their favorite characters and shows in the same hour. It honestly made me cry when this came out that that little bumpkin got a small “thanks for still watching us” moment 

  11. Commenters avatar
    idziman
    1 month

    That whole Superman vs The Elite discussion is the exact reason I think fans would be terrible in the writing role. They think they know what would be good or cool and they're too biased to realize that it would be garbage. There's a reason Snyder Superman can only go so far

  12. xav98
    1 month

    Ohh yall not watching the gl connection cartoon is biting yall in the ass 🤣🤣🤣😂 It’s all good though. Just a quick rundown is razer is very important as he was one of the main characters of a great cgi green lantern show that ran concurrently with the first two seasons of YJ the GL show ended on a MASSIVE CLIFFHANGER and for us that watched both as they aired back to back on the dc block Cartoon Network used to have this is very cathartic for us as Razer was arguably the best character in that show.

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    1. mikerob711
      1 month

      I don’t think it was anywhere near as big of a deal as you’re making it out to be, it was a cool piece of extra intro, but you could easily treat it like any other character you weren’t properly introduced to in YJ( which was most of them, and which I thought made their world feel much more alive as it didn’t seem like it was waiting around for the viewers) and it still flowed just as well as the rest of the show 

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        CJ
        1 month

        Perhaps, but I think it's fair if casual viewers who aren't familiar certain characters are dumbfounded by them just popping up and the show just expects you to know. It's always been a pro and con of most superhero comic books and their adaptations 🤔.

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      CJ
      1 month

      It was not a massive cliffhanger lol. The show wrapped up its arc and left on a more open-ended note. 

      A cliffhanger is more like when a character is missing or kidnaped or something and it ends before we get to see what happens or something like that 🤔.

  13. Commenters avatar
    Javonte
    1 month

    Kind of funny to not want to be introduced to ''new'' characters all of a sudden at the one timing big DC fans enjoyed of season 4 due to familiarity of Razer

  14. Commenters avatar
    CJ
    1 month

    I think you guys going into to this season thinking its suppose to wrap up the Draksied/Savage apocalypse storyline is the problem here 🤔. As I don't think anything in this season gave the impression that they were gonna do that. Therefore, you may want to temper you're expectations with that. Perhaps you'll feel differently after the end, but yeah this season is not the weakest lol.

    Now in regards to the red and blue lantern lol. His name is Razor and he was mainly there to satisfy Green Lantern the animated series fans because that show was cancelled prematurely around the same time young justice initially was. When I first saw this episode I was ecstatic to see this character from that show pop-up again. However, I did think that the people who missed the green lantern series would be confused as to who he was lol.

    Lastly, young justice throwing a ton a characters at you is probably not an executive thing, that's been kind of there from the start as they want to capture the feel of reading a comic book, and imo it's always been a pro and con of the show 🤔.

  15. cadentclock39
    1 month

    I'm not really one equipped to discuss the idea of super heroes killing criminals, but I will say it's definitely a very slippery slope and not all cases in DC are as cut and dry as it may seem. Joker? Oh yeah I don't think anyone is gonna have qualms about him dying. But what about other cases, like a character like Mary Doll from Batman TAS, different continuity but same dilemma, I won't spoil much for in case you ever check out Batman TAS, but she is genuinely one of the strongest arguments for why you shouldn't kill villains so readily. Some cases of villainy in DC or even Marvel are just people that need help. Dealt bad hands or forced to be what they are. (Key note SOME, I ain't even gonna try defending folks like Joker. Lol.)

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    Feedback
    1 month

    I don't think it's a spoiler to say the Apocalypse stuff is definitely not the focus of the season or this arc. They are ramping up the Apocalypse stuff bc the focus of this arc of this season is Rocket and The New Gods (the direct enemy of Apocalypse. The main focus is in the name of the season, The Phantom Zones & Superboy. I know you guys loved Apocolypse War but that's not what this season is gonna be about.

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    Morgan
    1 month

    lol a bunch of us knew the Razor stuff was gonna throw yall off. He's from the Green Lantern Animated Series that was coming out at the same time as the first two seasons of Young Justice, set in the same world. 

    The way I see it, its still setting up for Apokalyps stuff because, now its showing you the New Gods' side of things in New Genesis, High Father and High Mother adopted one of Darkseid's sons and they have a non-aggression truce with Apokalyps that keeps them from interfering with each other despite Darkseid's dealings with Vandal Savage and the abductions of the metahumans. Orion and Vyken even said in these eps. that New Genesis won't be the ones to break the truce because NO ONE would want that war. So its not like they're suddenly injecting more people, more like they're adding key parts to the Apokalyps stuff. There are times where it seems chaotic since a bunch of stuff is happening at once though, but with the comics too, sometimes it doesn't make sense till they show how it all connects. 

    And for those wondering- LANTERN RUNDOWN:

    Green- Willpower, can make constructs out of anything they can imagine. Space cops, usually one per sector but with a bunch of stuff happening, at some point they set up TWO per sector to have them working in partners. Earth has a number of them and that's often confused people as to why so I like that the first ep here brought it up. 

    Yellow- Fear. Rings go to people who have the capacity to instill great fear. Yellow Lanterns are also know as the Sinestro Corps. since he was responsible for the rings' creation and founded the corps. 

    Red- Rage. The ring ACTIVELY hurts the people it wears, causing them pain and inflaming their anger. They usually don't have the mental stability for contructs so most of the time, it's energy blasts and breathing hot plasma at people as they try to maul you. If you watch the Green Lantern Animated Series, it will show you the origin for the Red Lanterns for this world. In the comics, removing the red ring most often results in death. 

    Blue- Hope. Blue Lanterns have more passive abilities and can heal people. If a blue lantern and a green lantern are in the same vicinity as each other, blue lanterns power up Green Lanterns immensely and Blue Lanterns have access to creating constructions like a GL does in return.

    Violet- Love. These are known as the Star Sapphires. They recruit people with great love or are in love. They used to enemies of the GLs because the Star Sapphires would trap whomever they were in love with in crystal to keep them safe forever rather than lose them. The first iteration of the Star Sapphire crystals in the comics drove their hosts crazy before they were forged into rings to be more manageable.

    Orange- Avarice(Greed). Another one that drives people insane. Turns their greed up to 11 to the point they won't even let their be other orange lanterns, however, they can imbue their constructs of people or past orange lanterns with a level of sentience or personality.

    Indigo- Compassion. These rings were actually created by Abin Sur, the lantern who died and released his ring to Hal. He made them in secret because he didn't like the idea of imprisonment without rehabilitation and he had been consumed with the vendetta of capturing the person who murdered his daughter. Indigo rings actually force themselves on CRIMINALS, supplying them with a new sense of compassion and empathic abilities- which fixed the sociopath who felt nothing torturing and murdering Abin Sur's daughter, and she became the first Indigo Lantern, taking the name Indigo-1. Indigo Lanterns can sense others emotions and borrow the powers of other lanterns they are near. 

    Black- Death. Pretty much an entropic force in the universe than wants it to end. It resurrects your loved ones as Black Lanterns to make you hesitate and then when it senses your emotions, it consumes them and your life force to kill you. 

    White- Life. When you were asking if there was anyone who had all of them, this would be it basically. A few got selected to be White Lanterns for a bit to stop all the black lanterns.

    That's the base nine, but if you want to be technical, there are also Ultraviolet Lanterns who were pretty much treated like they don't exist and when it was discovered that they did, oh boy, things sucked for a bit. 

  18. Commenters avatar
    kamesome
    1 month

    I think the reason I personally like season 4 more than 3 is relation to random superhero cartoons I watched as a kid. The Green lantern animated series and legion of super heroes were kinda really niche series that never really had broad appeal or reached large audiences. Season 3 is way more original and self contained than 4, ultimately whatever style is more fun is personal. I truly just want an adaptation of Blackest Night in any medium but Green Lantern doesn't sell and sheer amount of background knowledge would sink any project so that aint happening.

  19. kekkers
    1 month

    I really hate what they did to Lor Zod.  He originally was Superman's first adopted son Christopher Kent

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      Morgan
      1 month

      Yes to this, one of the things I loved in the comics. But there are a handful of villainized versions of him in the comics too. I just wish they'd stop leaning so heavily on it and give us Christopher back Q~Q

  20. wynosaurus
    1 month

    I genuinely think the reason most people didn't care for season 3 is because lots of people found Brionne and Forager irritating, and after 6 years since the cancellation after season 2 their expectations for the revival were insanely high. Lots of characters form season 2 were sidelined, fan-favorite comic characters were introduced but barely touched on.  SO much of the season was dialogue and drama for characters that we never met meanwhile THE TEAM tm, barely features at all.

    I remember enjoying season 4 a lot more week to week, each arc features an original member of the team, so it's building more off established dynamics rather than building a new team from the ground up for a fourth time. And yet it seeing in through y'alls eyes it is very meandering and unfocused. It's too much all at once. These episodes feature Rocket's inability to cope with her son's needs, leading her to misjudge Orion, the ongoing Superboy in the phantom zone plot, The lore dropping of The Legion of Superheroes and their Fight with Zod's empire, Forager on Forager action, the return of a character introduced in the cancelled Green Lantern show {(fan-service for a character that you have absolutely no connection to), BEAST BOY'S THERAPY, war negotiations between the League, the Lanterns, and New Genesis, Bart Allen introducing a cosmic treadmill which is  a time-travel device used by speedsters in the comics, Metron's shit, Zod Mantis and Ma'alefa'ak pulling a Heist on Metron's shit, oh and it's Jay Garrick's birthday. Hooray!

    I would still rather watch season 4 than 3, but i absolutely get why y'all aren't vibing with it. Keeping up with everything is a tough ask for non-comic readers and even if you do that it switches gears constantly before you get to enjoy any momentum

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      CJ
      1 month

      Idk if I would say that it's meandering and unfocused. It's just balancing all these different things that we'll eventually see how it all comes together. The show has always done that sort of thing, but it's understandable if it feels overwhelming on a first viewing. I've said for the longest time that YJ is one of those shows where you have to watch it more than once in order to get everything and it's very easy to not remember certain details and characters lol  🤔.

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      1. wynosaurus
        1 month

        Well I think it is pretty unfocused, sure the other seasons all have  a bunch of stuff that all comes together, these episodes specifically are overcrowded, most episodes have an A plot and a B plot, these episodes have A, B, C, D, and E plots. It's too much at once

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    julian
    1 month

    It’s so wild sometimes what the young justice  writers will assume their audience will just know like razor is only from the green lantern show there’s no comics so he’s like a total mystery unless you look him up and the amount of times the writers will just name drop a person or location and just hope you are already familiar is crazy 

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      Robert
      1 month

      Razers also in a comic now btw. I don’t know the comic but he does exist in one.

    2. Commenters avatar
      Feedback
      1 month

      Or you could see it as them introducing you to a new character without taking an entire episode explaining there backstory or long exposition. You want to know much, look them up.

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        CJ
        1 month

        Yeah I feel like that one of the reasons why it's tough for some people to get into comics and a show like this 🤔. If certain characters are just thrown at you and the thing just expects you to already know or you have to go do your homework on it. Then that might alienate some casual viewers or readers. You see the MCU is facing a similar thing right now 🤔.

  22. Commenters avatar
    Narutoanime16
    1 month

    I feel so bad for Beastboy and the green lantern stuff is continuing from the Green lantern show with the Razor character he had a whole arc in that they wanted to continue here

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    Kollie123
    1 month

    It’s really funny hearing your discussion at the end because you heard so much about season 3 being the weakest season and season 4 being a step up or whatever. The reason you guys likely heard that about season 4 was because it focused more on the OG cast, discussion on this show has to be taken with a huge grain of salt because it’s impossible to tell who’s actually being objective or letting biases from the early season dictate what they do and don’t like 

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    wolf354
    1 month

    The box and Mantis part, in your video pause at 47:07 you wil see the seal of krypton on box plus Metron says this box marks the seal of krypton, that why Mantis know which boxes to find the phantom zone projector. In your video watch from 48:45 to 48:55 pay attention on the boxes all of them has the seal of krpton so Mantis open all the boxes with the mark that how he discovered the phantom zone projector.

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    isaiahbeasley69
    1 month

    So the green lantern stuff is a continuation of the green lantern the animated series show. The show is assuming you've seen that show since they were on originally around the same time

  26. Commenters avatar
    WerewolfF14
    1 month

    if a person masters all lantern rings those rings merge into a white lantern ring. Kyle Rayner accomplished this for a time.

  27. Commenters avatar
    WerewolfF14
    1 month

    the razer stuff is a continuation of Green lantern the animated series which this episode makes canon adjacent to young justice (meaning events similar to those of green lantern the animated series occurred in the young justice timeline but not exactly the same due to contradictions between the two continuity wise)

  28. delta3064
    1 month

    Season 4 if you haven't noticed is a collection of the original teams arcs. We started with mganns, then Artemis, then zatanna, then kaldur, now it's rockets after that it's nightwings then finally superboys

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    thespiderman360
    1 month

    If you take the first letter of each episode title and read  it out loud you will see what story line they want you to follow.

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    1. xav98
      1 month

      True 

  30. delta3064
    1 month

    The green lantern stuff was a continuation of the gl animated series

  31. Commenters avatar
    Michael
    1 month

    The plot line with Razer is basically a conclusion to the Green Lantern Animated Series that aired alongside Young Justice season 2 that was also cancelled.

  32. Commenters avatar
    striker
    1 month

    Yeah so fun fact ep 19 and the subplot of Razor,is essentially an epilog for the green lantern series that aired alongside young justice back in the day,and it got canceled.

  33. sombra_hacker09
    1 month

    Razer is from the green lantern animated series which followed hal jordan kilowog and razor who was a red lantern as they traveled the galaxy 

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