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Game of Thrones S8 Episode 5 Reaction

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  1. Commenters avatar
    AdamAshcraft222
    16 minutes

    I love seeing people blame the show runners for where some of the characters ended up in their part of the story. Everyone always says about how George didn’t have anything to do with the later seasons, but he already told them early on the way it would end for certain characters. People really expected some kind of fan service ending from the person who chopped off Ned Starks head in book 1, just because the fandom got attached to certain characters who made it to the last season. Rewatching the show if you really look you can see many moments where Dany showed signs of what was deep down. Even all the way back to the witch in season 1 when she talks to Dany about how she “saved” her and her child would’ve been a brutal warlord. Her decisions always felt somewhat just from the viewers perspective even when she showed subtle hints of indifference to all kinds of terrible things. She was presented from the beginning in a way that makes you pity her so when she finally begins to gain power everyone wants her to win. It’s honestly brilliant writing on Martin’s part and it’s a shame so many people don’t recognize that. Don’t get me wrong I still think the last season could’ve been way better and the show runners dropped the ball in many ways, but I feel like people who complain about the direction the story went forgot that it was never meant to be what we wanted or thought made the most sense. And yes the show runners took out many things including entire characters and plot points from even the books we do have now, but I think many people blame them for everything even when some of it is the way it was meant to be by the author. Looking forward to your reactions to the last episode and overall thoughts!

  2. Commenters avatar
    Parkster01
    33 minutes

    AND NOW ITS TIME FOR THE CLEGANEBOWL!!!!!

  3. Commenters avatar
    Will
    39 minutes

    I would love for you guys to react to the series promo from all the actors, there are some compilations and nearly all of them were so upset over the final series and trying to semi-hide it in their press interviews, it's genuinely very funny to watch.

  4. laras.
    48 minutes

    people were angry because dany went crazy.. that woman was always a little bit insane lol if u read the books... she has such a blind faith in her own abilities and rights since the very first book. yes she is imune to fire, no sane person would just walk in a funeral pyre *the way she did' let's be honest here. the fact that things turned right for her just gave her a blind confidance in her "fate" and "rights". she was doomed to madness.

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      AdamAshcraft222
      8 minutes

      We are meant to feel bad for her from the beginning so when she gets power it feels like the right direction, but so many times we see her show another side. They did a great job making the viewer empathize with her just enough to overlook the moments of darkness peeking through. When she claimed to have “saved” the witch. Wanting Khal Drogo to invade the Seven Kingdoms. Almost giving birth to the “Stallion that Mounts the World”. And those were all only in season 1. She never once during any of those moments showed accountability for what her actions were going to cause she could only see her personal goals. Sure she freed slaves and did many great things, but they were all simply steps in the road to power and the iron throne.

    2. Commenters avatar
      alternativeuse6
      41 minutes

      She was always entitled and immature. She always felt entitled to the throne, even after learning about John. She had zero reason to do half the things she does, and she cant control her emotions. Shes a fan favorite because they hope she will be different than the other Targs and shes cute, but shes always been pretty awful and abusive to everyone around her. Varys was when she became irredeemable.

  5. kittyinthebush
    1 hour

    I do agree that Jon's happy ending would be him joining the wildlings. Ultimate freedom at that point.

  6. kittyinthebush
    1 hour

    I don't think she gave Grey Worm different instructions, I think they both just had the same thirst for blood after Missandei. Like, she didn't have to command him, just as soon as he saw she was still attacking, he was all for it.

  7. Commenters avatar
    Black
    1 hour

    https://youtu.be/BGr0NRx3TKU?si=gm9AEkq9jzOqKHUK

  8. Commenters avatar
    mcwilson_1
    1 hour

    Where did the dothraki respawn from?

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    1. Commenters avatar
      alternativeuse6
      40 minutes

      they didnt all die, just less

  9. Commenters avatar
    mcwilson_1
    1 hour

    I always feel bad for the horses that have to die because humans are being idiots

  10. Commenters avatar
    mcwilson_1
    1 hour

    Cersei wasted the entire season having completed nothing but drinking while pregnant

  11. Commenters avatar
    Neela
    1 hour

    I think the thing I love most about this episode is the way Clegane (The hound) died. He died in fire, the very thing he feared for most of his life, to take out the person who made him afraid of it in the first place. I quite liked this episode for this season, but I definitely have my issues with it. The bad plot points can kind of be explained by "war is unfair and unexpected". But I hate how they ruined so many characters without much of a reason. The last episode is by far the worst one in my opinion, it just doesn't have any explanation for the way the plot goes. In my opinion it ruins pretty much the whole series (which I can obviously explain more once it's finished)

  12. kittyinthebush
    1 hour

    I was also genuinely surprised about Qyburn's ride or die status as well lol

  13. Commenters avatar
    mcwilson_1
    2 hours

    Danny going full azula

  14. Commenters avatar
    mcwilson_1
    2 hours

    Hey, it's varys acting like a complete idiot and absolutely not like who he is

  15. Commenters avatar
    MrAlexSan
    2 hours

    In hindsight, I def think this episode was not as bad as at the time. I def felt the same as y'all when this first aired, but in hindsight I still dislike how quick this all felt. Like we needed a few more episodes in Season 7 and Season 8 of Dany having issues with Westerosi lords. All we had in the show was a hardened commander (Tarleys), Cercei's Betrayal in the war against Winter... and got ignored at a dinner party. I do think we needed a bit more... same with Varys, I think he was not as clever as before when going about betraying Dany...

    I honestly think there were strong moments this season, and I honestly like the finale, but man when you think about a lot of the decisions and weaker moments its rough.

  16. Commenters avatar
    Ahan
    2 hours

    I’m curious to know your guys thoughts on Jamie. A lot of people say he had one of the most fumbled character arcs in tv history. He was a lot of people fav character in the show and then the writers ruined him near the end.

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    1. Commenters avatar
      alternativeuse6
      39 minutes

      I dont think they ruined him. He has always been about getting to/pleasing Cersie. He just didnt change in the end because his love was so strong

  17. alexfook
    2 hours

    I'm really sat here debating whether I want to watch this garbage again, but hey I came this far with you guys, can't stop now

  18. aerkan_
    3 hours

    I'm just saying... based on your reactions to this episode I can't wait for your reaction to a certain choice they made regarding a character that wasn't even in this episode lol it's gonna be glorious

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      Neela
      1 hour

      Lmao I know exactly what you're talking about. I've never felt such anger towards a plot point than that choice

  19. Commenters avatar
    Imaru_Angel
    3 hours

    "she can't die from rubble!" *10 min later* xD

    This is the episode I was waiting for cause I am so so so so so mad. lmao. I do agree there are wonderfull scenes and storylines. I am not even mad that she torched the city I just don't agree with the why. They gave Tyrion a complete new character. I don't think he would EVER be so blinded by Family love. Specialy his sister? Jamie yes but not his sister. He forgets so much stratagy he knew and had in other seasons. and that is what leeds to so much loss, that in turn let's Daenerys go bonkers. the loss of the second Dragon was also bullshit... you tell me you can't see all thos ships from way up there?? really? Even if she is distracted there where so many and they were right there in the corner of her vision. Or even the Dragons not seeing all those ships?

    Dany has been thru so, so much. I know this adds to it and it would be a valid reason to let her snap but not with this rushed set up. Also making her make the decission, of love or fear, based on John rejecting her? I don't know. It is just so sad and rushed I would have loved to see a slow desend into madness. And they were setting it up -kinda- from season 6. But rushed and for me not understandible reasons. Or to put it better decissions that I really don't see characters making based on established developments.

    Unfortunetly I see Jamie making the dessicion for Cersei. Still could have let her die alone tbh.

    ^^' went on a little ramble lmao.

    I loved this show so much. I hate the rushing and the jumping, decissions make no sense. I want to read the books when (if) they are all out.

  20. Commenters avatar
    jbstew96
    3 hours

    Welcome to the Grand disappointment lmao…sheeeeesh… yeah. I’m sorry guys. It’s been real 😬😅 show runners really fucked up man. Great moments, but damn they really botched some main character moments. One more😅🤙🏼

  21. nickgazord
    3 hours

    You'll like it less and less as you think about it.

  22. babbityyrabbityy
    3 hours

    My problem with this episode is they made it feel like Jon was the catalyst for her losing it when he couldn't love her the way she wanted. Also, it's not believable that she would kill women and children for no reason when she won. That isn't in her character, but they could have took the time to make it believable if they were going to go there. What would have made more sense is if they saved the second dragon's death for this episode. Watching a second dragon/child die during the battle and torching the city because of that and continuing after the bells toll would make more sense.

    There were theories before the season came out that there was something in the book that predicted Cersei's death by a younger sibling. People wondered if Jamie would kill her as the younger twin or if Arya would kill her with Jamie's face. That death just like the Night King was disappointing.

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    1. kittyinthebush
      1 hour

      Yes, the same prophecy that told her she would marry the king, have 3 children while he had however many, and all her children would die, also told her she would be killed by her younger brother. She assumes that means Tyrion, but lots of people theorized it actually meant Jamie since he is also younger than her

  23. Commenters avatar
    Ahan
    3 hours

    Jamie saying he never cared about the innocents in kings landing is some of the worst writing ever. His entire reason for killing the mad king and becoming the “king slayer” was to save all of those innocents from being burned😭 makes no sense for him to say that

  24. Commenters avatar
    Sly
    3 hours

    This was like a medivel version of the bombing of Dresden.

  25. kittyinthebush
    3 hours

    I think I agree, the last episode was a good episode. I think the only problem with having an episode like the last episode, and the first episode of this season, was the fact there were only 6 in this whole season. Episodes 1 & 3 were great episodes, if these last two seasons weren't so short, and weren't the last two seasons but instead had 4ish more seasons. Except for some stuff that happened at the end of the last episode, which is extra funny when you watch the behind the scenes videos

  26. sguy90
    3 hours

    Honestly, I don't know for certain, but it felt like the show runners and writers had a favoritism towards Arya, giving her all the cool moments. Also struggling to write other characters well without George RR Martin. It's a pain really, since a lot of people thought that Dany would eventually be a mad ruler but the show doesn't do a good job at building up to it. It tries to at certain points, but other points they paint her as a savior and it gives a lot of mixed messages. The later two seasons then tries to speadrun that arc for her and it fails unfortunately.

  27. Commenters avatar
    Robin
    4 hours

    There is also a Robin Hood series coming out that kinda gives GoT vibes.

  28. fisher94
    4 hours

    There may have been some questionable writing on how we got to this point or Dany's switch being too rushed etc but man this episode is so sick. The Jamie Cersei thing also kinda made sense, they've made it clear that he does everything for Cersei, I personally always predicted Jamie was gonna kill Cersei himself and become "Queenslayer"

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      Cody
      3 hours

      Agreed, I thought the way they died together made complete sense. For me not getting to see more of "The Mad Queen" was my biggest regret from this season.

  29. Commenters avatar
    Madame
    4 hours

    And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.

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    1. Commenters avatar
      Madame
      4 hours

      Symbolism

  30. imrightoverhere
    4 hours

    Re: y'all rooting for Jaime; what this season made clear most to me is, that these aren’t the characters I was rooting for in the early seasons, these are just their incoherent caricature versions who are there to be part of the plot they wanted, not the trajectory that would’ve actually made sense. Jaime turns from the man who broke his honor to save millions of lives to the man who sacrificed his chance to save those people just so he could save his own personal version of the mad king. Daenerys is supposed to be the merciless mad queen willing to murder civilians by the thousands so she could liberate the people, while also being the person who would just imprison the guy who killed her dad and his incompetent brother. Sandor’s supposed to be the guy who convinces Arya to turn back from revenge knowing what it’s done to him, while also being the guy who accompanied her from Winterfell to King’s Landing AND the guy who went and tried to revenge kill the Mountain anyway. Not a single one of these characters are left unscathed.

  31. Commenters avatar
    Munir
    4 hours

    It's commendable how positive you guys are, but wow is this episode bad. Dany sacrificing the innocents in Cersei's path would be one thing, but she decides to take the scenic route to kill everyone but Cersei. The writers wanted to remove any moral ambiguity, so they made her snap abruptly when she had already won. Arya had the most plot armor I've ever seen, so many back-to-back cuts of her somehow being the sole survivor. Euron losing the fight to one-handed Jaime makes him seem even more pathetic than he already did.

  32. striker01269
    4 hours

    You know its honestly impressive the level of character assassination they did to both Jaime and Danny,and the butchering of Jon's character

  33. Commenters avatar
    paulyrendon00
    5 hours

    I wanna follow my hot aunt blindly into whatever

  34. Commenters avatar
    paulyrendon00
    5 hours

    Yall I’m gonna be on your knees, bowing down the clone wars in a few weeks

  35. Commenters avatar
    Ruukasu97
    5 hours

    i still remember the clip where the actory of varys read the script for the first time and was pissed that is character became so stupid and died like an idiot

  36. izzyskittycat
    5 hours

    I can't wait to see what y'all think of this ahaha xD It's such a mess ngl. Like most of the concepts are good imo, but oml so so so badly rushed :O

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      Robin
      4 hours

      I don't like Cercie ketting off easy, but I do like the fact the twins die in each others arms. Jaimy's only fault was loving his twisted sister more than his own honor and it makes him likeable and not likeable at the same time. I do think it's a beautiful moment if only they weren't twins.

  37. Commenters avatar
    Noah
    5 hours

    Brace yourselves Billy o7

  38. Commenters avatar
    Madame
    5 hours

    I guess we know which way the coin landed…

  39. striker01269
    5 hours

    Oh boy got my popcorn and ready for an absolute train wreck of an ep

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