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"This isn't as bad as everybody tries to make it out to be"
Yup, this is proof that it's only the most annoying haters the ones we read about. Fortunately most people watching these movies are just normal people who don't like to rant about anything just for attention.
Can't wait for yall to meet Kanan Jarrus
That actually is lando daughter
Disney execs even said that 7 of 10 of the people in charge/write star wars weren't fans and most have them hadn't even seen it prior. There is also an interview with the main cast and Finn's actor even said the "They fly now?" with the jet troopers had them during the clone wars
Force lighting is a dark side ability plo koon and some other powerful jedi can use a less powerful version called force judgment because it doesn't use the dark side and it's yellow
Ugh, I'm normally such a positive person on films. I love finding the good in films. What makes this film so awful for me is the wasted potential. The idea from episode 8 was that Rey's parents didn't matter, and that was her worst fear, that she was nobody. It set it up at the end to demonstrate that anyone could be a jedi, that you didn't need to be trained, but inspired. (Such a great marketing idea as well disney, way to go on killing that one). Palpatine took over all of the intrigue that was created by killing Snoke and leaving the world up in arms and in chaos. Kylo Ren at the end of 8 looked like he was going down a path of anger that was so all-consuming that he went over the edge. In this he just seemed moody. They brought in a girlfriend for Poe to make sure he didn't seem gay, both the actors were advocates of Poe and Finn having a relationship, and it was completely shut down.
Every important moment or consequence was abandoned almost immediately. Chewie dies, no hes alive. C3P0 loses his memory, nope that's back. Luke sacrifices himself to bring back the memory of the Jedi. Just kidding, actually he can come back at any point and chat to Rey for fun. They shipped off Rose because fans didn't like her character. They made the entire movie about how important all the previous Jedi and Sith were, not how important the new characters were. The moment where Rey tells Palpatine that her parents were strong is empty and meaningless. I felt NOTHING because we know not a single thing about them. That was because her parents were clearly never meant to be important. Rey was the girl who came from nothing, with no one who cared about her and survived, and the story would've been so satisfying for her to represent that no matter where you came from, no matter how alone you are, you matter and you have potential.
Also the plot, is four fetch quests stiched together poorly. The idea that a dagger from eons ago for an old forgotten planet is a map by lining up exactly with a ship that crashed into the sea? As long as you stood exactly in the right place to look through the dagger?
They also decided to just make the final space battle so big, so impossibly difficult to beat, that any way they won felt forced. Like, there's upping stakes from previous films, and then there's making the stakes from the previous films feel meaningless. The character assassination of Finn was horrendous. I feel so bad for these actors because they were AMAZING actors. Rewatching the scream and emotion that ripped out of Rey when she thinks she's killed Chewie is INCREDIBLE.
I know no one is probably gonna read this, but getting it off my chest felt good. In my head, this film isn't cannon, and the true villain all along was emperor Jar-Jar. The objectively correct timeline.
Yeah after this movie I declared the sequels non-canon as well. I started reading the legends books and easily have declared them as the true sequels, I’m much happier now
according to wookiepedia Force lightning ability was not restricted to dark-siders. Jedi and other light-siders who were strong of will and character could learn this power without falling to the dark side—but its use was viewed as inherently corrupting, and most Jedi Councils forbade its use.
guess what....the message that palpatine spread throughout the galaxy was revealed...NOT in a star wars original piece of media but in a FORTNITE LIVE EVENT COLLABING WITH STAR WARS
I spent half of this reaction just saying "It's dumb, I hate it, It's dumb I hate it" From the moment they reveal who she's related to.
Well, why did you even finished the second half then? Why are you here even? This is the pure definition of a hater. I enjoy the movie for that it is btw.
Most of Leia's scenes were deleted scenes from 'The Force Awakens'. This movie was kinda like trying to course correct the negative reaction that episode 8 got and it ended up not going well here either. Especially when they wanted to tie in the entire saga here instead of having a new threat. This trilogy had no real plan of what they wanted. Funny enough tho with Finn and the force this is the only time they tie him to that, but there is a Lego Star Wars Holiday special that kinda goes into it but not much
The issues you cited where basically what a lot of the critiques were. It all just feels like wasted potential, it sucks cause there's moments they botched where it would have made sense to honor the legacy, then shoehorned it in where it wasn't needed. This movie spent way too much time gagging on the past and trying to retcon the decisions made in the earlier movies. Hopefully one day star wars can learn to let go or we're just gonna have flop after flop.
Force Lightning is a dark Side force power. That doesnt mean a jedi can't use it. They just will not use it. There is a light side Version of it, its called Electric Judgement, which shoots golden Lightning Bolts instead of blue ones. It was accidentally discovered by a Jedi.
It's unfortunate that no one told Anakin about Force Healing. Y'know, the thing that would have solved the fear that drove him to Palpatine/ the dark side in the first place.
I can't believe you were so foolish as to not play fortnite when the other part of the film was released in it. It explained everything about palpatines return. Silly consumers, thinking watching the film would explain the film.
In legend there is a jedi versjon of sith lightning. is known as Electric judgment or emerald lightning. it manifested as yellow-orange, green, white or golden. The difference is the jedi appmication came from a sense of determined justice. This is a forbidden techniques because of it similarity to sith. But a few jedi did study it jedi master Plo koon and Luke skywalker. Being the last jedi does not make you stronger Rey is just that strong. Darth vender can not use sith lightning because of his severed arms. Robotic hands can't summon the sith lightning. The only other person we have seen use sith lightning is count Dooku.
"Somehow, Palpatine returned." The final nail in the coffin
C-3PO saying "is this the afterlife? are droids aloud here?" Had me i tears when i first heard it
Also quick correction,John boyega(finn) didn't hate the fans,he hated how his character was handled especially in the last 2 films..
Also Eric that premise for Ep 10 was scrapped a long time ago,Disney has a dumb habit of announcing films and scrapping them later
I enjoyed seeing your reaction to star wars especially seeing and pointing out the bad parts as you went through it.
J. J. Abrams, the director of episode 7, set up a lot of things and mysteries, but there was no overall predefined goal. This director likes "mystery box" storytelling, where he sets up a mystery and then tries to figure it out later. The director of episode 8 Rian Johnson then took those set ups and had to deal with them, and he also tried to move the movies in a different direction, in some was successfully, in some not so much, but overall there was a split in the fanbase. Then Disney had another director ready, but went back to J. J. Abrams to "fix" the episode 9 and to try to "unite" the fans and make Disney a lot of money, they made a lot of cheap decisions they thought would please the fanbase, while at the same time trying to please the racist and homophobic markets to maximaze the revenue.
There was not original outline of the series. Palpatine actor was surprised that he was casted again because as he and George Lucas intended Palpatine to be dead, and the Kylo Ren/Ben Solo actor signed up on the movies with the assumption he'd end up the "bad guy" till the end of the movies, not turning "good"
This trilogy is just a mismanagement hell, with people not having any real plan, making things up as they go, while panicking executives try to please fanbase, which lets be hones, is not always easy to deal with.
There's a lot of more issues with the story than what you've noticed, but I get it, you can't pick on everything on the first view, especially if you don't have the lore in details in your memory, like a lot of fans did.
I can never tell which of the last 2 movies i like the least. Like Episode 8 just feels like it hates Star Wars and Episdoe 9 feels like it course corrected so hard that its just pandering.
This movie has its up and downs but i don’t see it as a horrible thing tbh, it has its moments where you actually get chills and get emotional. I love watching you guys react to these movies! I hope you get to watch The Mandalorian, honestly its one of my favorite things Disney has made.
lightning is a sith skill, manipulation like yoda did is a jedi skill. healing is a jedi skill.
Don't worry newer star wars TV shows explain how palpatine came back
Bold faced lie. Nothing has explained at all how he came back
The problem is that those shows shouldn’t have to explain nor should the novelization or writers
The Clone Wars shouldn’t have to explain why the Clones turned on all the Jedi without a second thought or why the Jedi don’t trust Anakin in ROTS……but they do. The purpose of Star Wars TV shows has always been to fix bad writing.
The clones were given an order the moment palpatine was found out. Also the jedi were given fake leads on who created the clones, so there isn't an explanation needed there. Anakin in the movies had an attachment to padme and was unpredictable, so that covers why they didn't trust him to be a jedi master. Shows can certainly expand on concepts from other media, but it definitely shouldn't have to be explained in that way.
RAAAGHHH, time for my mini rant! There’s no mistaking these movies have scenes that I love, especially 7, but overall their reputation was marred by a whole bunch of BTS bs, from each movie being directed by a different person(leaving the trilogy feeling disjointed as 8 & 9 spend half their runtime trying to “fix” the what the current director didn’t like from the previous movie), to international racism causing Disney to pivot from their original story and minimize the roll of Finn. The Finn thing hurt the most as a kid because the idea of a Black MC in Star Wars was my everything at the time, but since China hates black people(seriously, look up episode 7’s China poster vs US), John Boyega, who was contracted to be a “main” character in 3 movies, was reduced to a glorified supporting cast member who just yells “REYYYYY!” .
And that Gadies and Lentelmen, is why despite the cool scenes, I’ll always hate 8 & 9.
It’s truly gotten to the point for me where I just consider the legends as my sequels. So many better stories and characters and much better characterizations of the OT characters! They all grow into very successful and influential people!
This movie gets a lot of hate, but I don't really see it myself.
ah yes the only of the sequel trilogy that I actually dislike.
I'm excited to see your reaction to this one, barely remember it, saw this and the past one in theaters. Gotta be honest haven't seen Ep. 4,5,6 .
This movie was truly the final nail in the coffin for Disney Star Wars for me! I hated this movie to no end! I hated that Palpatine returned because it was clearly a desperate attempt to save the trilogy and it only failed, and the ONLY explanation we got was “Somehow Palpatine returned” which is such crap! Rey being his granddaughter was just out of no where, and her just naming herself a skywalker was just really weak. Finn suddenly isn’t so special anymore because apparently more stormtroopers rebelled. And Leia’s death wasn’t very emotional because Carrie Fisher was already dead. So much I hated about this movie, I decided to look to the legends books and now I consider those as my sequels because the stories and the characters are so much better it’s not even funny!
You missed out on some of the best Star Wars content ever then. Solo, Rise of Skywalker and the Acolyte are the only bad Star Wars media Disney has made out of 5 movies, 1 short film, 12 shows, 2 YouTube micro series and 9 video games. This of course isn’t counting books, comics(I wouldn’t read them regardless of how good they are), adaptations of previous stories or things that are blatantly non canon that were just made for fun like that Lego Christmas special they did.
I’ve seen the other shows but what I meant was most of the stuff Disney puts out, starting with the sequels, isn’t canon for me. Like I love rogue one, andor, and mandalorian, and Ahsoka, but these days anything post ROTJ I look to the legends rather than the canon
Yeah, people were MAD about the fact Palpatine returned
it wasn't that plapatine returned but the only reason why in lore at the time was po dame ran going "somehow Palpatine returned
does this have alot of problems yes. do i still like it also yes. Exegol is such a interesting new planet and the lore in the books post tros exspanding it have been pretty good .
Oh yeah, I am completly aware of that
"somehow Palpatine returned"
No surprise, people didn’t even like that he came back as a clone in the legends comic dark empire. Him returning in the canon now makes it seem like Anakin’s sacrifice was all for nothing and the chosen one prophecy was not fulfilled, plus now it seems like everything that they fought for and accomplished in the original trilogy was all for nothing because they ended up exactly where they started all because of Palpatine!
it wasnt for nothing anakin became the new father of mortis and the balance of the force held for 30 years . sheev also had to basically start from scratch power wise .